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Departures (18)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
FJI811 KLAX NFFN Arriving
SIA38 KLAX WSSS Enroute 1014
SAS940 KLAX EKCH Enroute 2117
SAS932 KLAX EKCH Enroute 2113
DAL934 KLAX KJFK Enroute 1830
ASA193 KLAX PANC Enroute 1027
AAL1375 KLAX KMIA Enroute 1804
VIR958 KLAX KJFK Enroute 1953
PAY3236 KLAX PHTO Enroute 0040
SWA192 KLAX KHOU Enroute 1952
AAL169 KLAX RJTT Enroute 0438
AAL1483 KLAX KBNA Enroute 2020
NKS110 KLAX KSLC Enroute 0210
UAL1314 KLAX KSFO Enroute 1326
AAL1295 KLAX KLAS Enroute 1600
TWA8 KLAX KJFK Arriving
AAL307 KLAX KJFK Enroute 0332
DAL1434 KLAX KSLC Enroute 1600

Arrivals (22)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
QTR6P OTHH KLAX Enroute 0528
CPA882 VHHH KLAX Enroute 0219
BAW283 EGLL KLAX Enroute 0747
DAL3027 LFPG KLAX Enroute 0414
AAL250 PHOG KLAX Enroute 0159
SVA41 OEJN KLAX Enroute 0710
BAW269 EGLL KLAX Enroute 1107
WAT4573 KATL KLAX Enroute 0446
AAL490 CYLW KLAX Enroute 1600
UAL5466 KAUS KLAX Enroute 0511
SWA4320 KDEN KLAX Enroute 0505
CAY480 MWCR KLAX Enroute 0247
DAL979 KSAN KLAX Enroute 1108
UAL310 KPHX KLAX Enroute 1600
SJX002 RCTP KLAX Departing
VIA022 KSTL KLAX Enroute 0508
AAL601 KDEN KLAX Enroute 0817
DAL501 KATL KLAX Enroute 0507
WAT4554 VHHH KLAX Enroute 0207
NOZ738 ENBR KLAX Enroute 0514
ACA777 KOAK KLAX Enroute 1600
CPA880 VHHH KLAX Departing

Los Angeles (SoCal) 40

Departures (1)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
UPS2964 KONT PHNL Enroute 1600

Arrivals (1)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
GTI8950 PANC KONT Enroute 0520

Empire (SoCal) 2

Departures (6)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
SKW3474 KSAN KEGE Enroute 0340
SWA1956 KSAN KSJC Enroute 0633
DAL979 KSAN KLAX Enroute 1108
SKW3475 KSAN KJAC Enroute 0756
SWA1774 KSAN KRNO Enroute 1600
N667LQ KSAN KSLC Enroute 1600

Arrivals (12)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
BAW82P EGLL KSAN Enroute 0612
DLH31M EDDM KSAN Enroute 0724
DLH5Y EDDM KSAN Enroute 0605
DAL2121 KMSP KSAN Enroute 0502
N34AM KPHX KSAN Enroute 1606
DAL1082 KMKE KSAN Enroute 0511
BAW82S EGLL KSAN Enroute 0516
DAL527 KLAS KSAN Enroute 0404
SWA423 KSLC KSAN Enroute 0424
UAL1117 KDEN KSAN Enroute 0456
SWA936 KSLC KSAN Enroute 0649
BAW11 EGLL KSAN Departing

San Diego (SoCal) 18

Arrivals (2)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
UAL1383 KIAH KSNA Enroute 0431
ASA1058 KPDX KSNA Enroute 0350

Coast (SoCal) 2

Departures (1)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
N715VM KVNY SBGR Enroute 1930

Burbank (SoCal) 1

Departures (2)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
DAL527 KLAS KSAN Enroute 0404
ROLO52 KLAS KSLC Enroute 1152

Arrivals (6)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
BAW2MW EGLL KLAS Enroute 0606
BAW2MT EGLL KLAS Enroute 0904
SWA2717 KSEA KLAS Enroute 0349
AAL1295 KLAX KLAS Enroute 1600
DAL777 KATL KLAS Departing
AAY28 KEUG KLAS Enroute 1600

Las Vegas 8
  • Flights To/From ZLA: 71
  • Flights in ZLA Airspace: 16
  • Controller Schedule

    March 13th, 2025

    Socal Approach (Del Rey Area)
    Mohammad Mirza

    1700 - 2000 PDT / 0000 - 0300 Zulu

    Socal Approach (Empire Area)
    Brian Knight

    1700 - 2000 PDT / 0000 - 0300 Zulu

    Socal Approach (San Diego Area)
    Satvir Gill

    1700 - 1900 PDT / 0000 - 0200 Zulu

    Los Angeles Tower
    Bill Bymel

    Session with WX

    1800 - 1930 PDT / 0100 - 0230 Zulu

    Left Turn ORCKA

    LAX is one of the busiest airports on VATSIM, both for controllers and pilots. Since it is such a heavily trafficked airport on VATSIM and in the real world, there are many departure and arrival procedures that are used to expedite the flow of traffic. Of these departures, the ORCKA departure, is both very commonly included in flight plans, and prone to some mistakes. By writing this, I hope to clear up some confusion caused by the unique departure procedure and the cluttered plate.

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    Let’s start by looking at the departure, shown here first using the FAA plate.

     

    Despite what the lines may appear to show, pilots must not proceed to KLIPR after crossing their runway’s respective RNAV fix.

    This is not the complete procedure, simply the first page. We can see on the bottom the plate that there is a second page for us to look at. Additionally, we should know that dotted lines on a procedure indicate what pilots should do during a Lost Communications scenario. The second page, which describes how to fly the departure in text, is much more enlightening than this first page. For the south complex (runways 25R and 25L) it says, “... cross DOCKR (25R) or HIPPR (25L) at or below 3000, then on heading 236 or as assigned by ATC,” and for the north complex (runways 24R and 24L) “...cross FABRA (24R) or DLREY (24L) at or below 3000, then on heading 251 or as assigned by ATC.”

    That last part seems to trip the most pilots up, “then on heading <> or as assigned by ATC.” This means that, if flying by hand, simply fly the heading on the departure until ATC gives you a turn direct to KLIPR, then resume the departure from there (on to KEGGS and so on). It seems far more often pilots let the FMC dictate where they go, which while not an issue generally can cause problems when programmed incorrectly. Specifically, with the deletion of “VECTORS” legs and the removal of discontinuities therein. In order for the FMC to properly fly the departure, it is imperative that the “VECTORS” leg be left intact. Such a leg will keep your airplane flying the correct heading until ATC gives you a turn.

    Let’s work through this with a scenario. I will be using the Zibo 737-800 mod for XPlane 11 as an example.

    You are N12345, flying from LAX to LAS. Clearance delivery has cleared you on the ORCKA5 departure, MISEN transition, climb via SID except maintain 5000. Loading the departure into the flight plan, you are greeted with this.

     

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    As we can see, there is the 640’ crossing, from which we navigate to DOCKR at or below 3000. After, the “VECTOR” leg mentioned earlier is shown. It is absolutely imperative that pilots do not delete this leg. As shown, the vector leg is on a heading of 236, as published on the departure. The same is true for the north runways, but on a heading of 251.

    But what if your FMC does not have this VECTORS leg present? If after ensuring that there hasn’t been a mistake in loading the departure, and that your navdata is up to date and the leg still isn’t present, simply fly using heading. The two ways of doing this (with or without autopilot engaged) is to fly in LNAV mode until DOCKR and then switch to heading mode, or to use heading mode from the start. While the latter option does not legally fly the RNAV departure, it is fairly accurate for sim reasons, as real aircraft would not have this issue when loading the departure.

    You start up and taxi out to runway 25R. Tower tells you “N12345 RNAV DOCKR wind calm runway 25R cleared for takeoff.” Throttles go up, airspeed builds, and you takeoff. Per the departure “climb on heading 251 to 640 feet, then climb direct to cross DOCKR at or below 3000.” Up you go, passing through 640’ easily, and onto DOCKR.

    Contacting departure, the controller says “N12345 radar contact, altitude as reported, climb via ORCKA5 departure.” Now what? Simple, continue flying the departure. After DOCKR, begin the vectors leg, in this case on heading 236. The “climb via SID” part of the instruction simply means you can ignore the “except maintain 5000” from the initial clearance on the ground. To what altitude? FL230, shown on the bottom right of the Jeppesen chart and top middle of the FAA charts, complying with altitude restrictions. In short order, the controller will issue an instruction for you to rejoin the departure at KLIPR, either with another assigned heading or a vector directly to the fix.

    To briefly summarize, the ORCKA departure is frequently flown incorrectly, causing loss of separation issues at LAX. This can be attributed to some misinformation floating around online about deleting VECTORS legs in flight plans, and confusing charting on FAA departure plates. Ensure that the VECTORS leg is present in your FMC when loading the departure into the FMC. If it is not present, simply fly either manually or using the heading mode present in almost all autopilots manufactured in the last 70 years.

    I hope this has been informative, and I look forward to seeing you all in the virtual skies!