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Departures (13)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
CSN231 KLAX ZGGG Enroute 2110
SAS932 KLAX EKCH Enroute 2124
UAL1082 KLAX KORD Enroute 1622
VJT2KM KLAX PHNL Enroute 2310
UAL1775 KLAX KEWR Enroute 1801
BAW21B KLAX EGLL Enroute 0009
ANZ103 KLAX NZAA Enroute 0308
ASA1178 KLAX KSEA Enroute 0129
UAL8688 KLAX CYYC Enroute 2237
DAL65 KLAX NZAA Enroute 1547
AAL1589 KLAX KPHX Enroute 2255
QTR44B KLAX OTHH Enroute 2136
SWR41G KLAX LSZH Enroute 1600

Arrivals (15)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
AAL72 YSSY KLAX Enroute 2154
PAL112 RPLL KLAX Enroute 2325
QFA11 YSSY KLAX Enroute 2040
CPA882 VHHH KLAX Enroute 0319
BAW283 EGLL KLAX Enroute 0417
SIA38 WSSS KLAX Enroute 0623
BAW7D EGLL KLAX Enroute 0515
QFA12 YSSY KLAX Enroute 2259
FDX3072 KOAK KLAX Enroute 1432
UAL731 VHHH KLAX Enroute 0416
CAL525 RCTP KLAX Enroute 0538
DLH456 EDDF KLAX Enroute 0211
CPA884 VHHH KLAX Enroute 0031
KLM603 EHAM KLAX Departing
DAL9264 KSEA KLAX Enroute 1600

Los Angeles (SoCal) 28

Departures (7)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
BAW264 KSAN EGLL Enroute 1531
WWA3311 KCRQ CYYZ Enroute 1541
N3232X KSAN KCHD Enroute 1239
SWA2129 KSAN KDEN Enroute 0506
UAL307 KSAN KIAH Enroute 1629
SWA2035 KSAN KLAS Enroute 0802
SWA1005 KSAN KSMF Enroute 0014

Arrivals (6)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
AAL480 KPHX KSAN Enroute 1600
DLH466 EDDM KSAN Enroute 0629
AAL8654 KPHX KSAN Enroute 1600
QXE2051 KLAS KSAN Enroute 0146
CCA5226 KSFO KSAN Enroute 0005
BAW265 EGLL KSAN Departing

San Diego (SoCal) 13

Departures (1)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
SWA1555 KBUR KOAK Enroute 0040

Arrivals (2)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
SWA1987 KLAS KBUR Enroute 0320
UAL301 KSFO KBUR Enroute 1600

Burbank (SoCal) 3

Arrivals (2)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
SWA2355 KDEN KPSP Enroute 0656
SWA113 KLAS KPSP Enroute 0059

Palm Springs (SoCal) 2

Departures (6)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
QXE2051 KLAS KSAN Enroute 0146
SWA1987 KLAS KBUR Enroute 0320
SWA113 KLAS KPSP Enroute 0059
SWA1919 KLAS KDSM Enroute 1627
SWA5369 KLAS KSLC Enroute 1906
ACA1282 KLAS CYYZ Enroute 1600

Arrivals (7)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
PAA8863 RJAA KLAS Enroute 0213
BAW271 EGLL KLAS Enroute 0603
OCN11 EDDF KLAS Enroute 1053
GGA777 KATL KLAS Enroute 0140
JBU1177 KBOS KLAS Enroute 0257
SWA2035 KSAN KLAS Enroute 0802
DE5367 EDDF KLAS Departing

Las Vegas 13
  • Flights To/From ZLA: 59
  • Flights in ZLA Airspace: 21
  • Controller Schedule

    October 10th, 2025

    Los Angeles Tower
    Zhenyu Mao

    Session with ER

    1600 - 1730 PDT / 2300 - 0030 Zulu

    Lindbergh Ground
    Ellis Huebner

    1700 - 1900 PDT / 0000 - 0200 Zulu

    Left Turn ORCKA

    LAX is one of the busiest airports on VATSIM, both for controllers and pilots. Since it is such a heavily trafficked airport on VATSIM and in the real world, there are many departure and arrival procedures that are used to expedite the flow of traffic. Of these departures, the ORCKA departure, is both very commonly included in flight plans, and prone to some mistakes. By writing this, I hope to clear up some confusion caused by the unique departure procedure and the cluttered plate.

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    Let’s start by looking at the departure, shown here first using the FAA plate.

     

    Despite what the lines may appear to show, pilots must not proceed to KLIPR after crossing their runway’s respective RNAV fix.

    This is not the complete procedure, simply the first page. We can see on the bottom the plate that there is a second page for us to look at. Additionally, we should know that dotted lines on a procedure indicate what pilots should do during a Lost Communications scenario. The second page, which describes how to fly the departure in text, is much more enlightening than this first page. For the south complex (runways 25R and 25L) it says, “... cross DOCKR (25R) or HIPPR (25L) at or below 3000, then on heading 236 or as assigned by ATC,” and for the north complex (runways 24R and 24L) “...cross FABRA (24R) or DLREY (24L) at or below 3000, then on heading 251 or as assigned by ATC.”

    That last part seems to trip the most pilots up, “then on heading <> or as assigned by ATC.” This means that, if flying by hand, simply fly the heading on the departure until ATC gives you a turn direct to KLIPR, then resume the departure from there (on to KEGGS and so on). It seems far more often pilots let the FMC dictate where they go, which while not an issue generally can cause problems when programmed incorrectly. Specifically, with the deletion of “VECTORS” legs and the removal of discontinuities therein. In order for the FMC to properly fly the departure, it is imperative that the “VECTORS” leg be left intact. Such a leg will keep your airplane flying the correct heading until ATC gives you a turn.

    Let’s work through this with a scenario. I will be using the Zibo 737-800 mod for XPlane 11 as an example.

    You are N12345, flying from LAX to LAS. Clearance delivery has cleared you on the ORCKA5 departure, MISEN transition, climb via SID except maintain 5000. Loading the departure into the flight plan, you are greeted with this.

     

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    As we can see, there is the 640’ crossing, from which we navigate to DOCKR at or below 3000. After, the “VECTOR” leg mentioned earlier is shown. It is absolutely imperative that pilots do not delete this leg. As shown, the vector leg is on a heading of 236, as published on the departure. The same is true for the north runways, but on a heading of 251.

    But what if your FMC does not have this VECTORS leg present? If after ensuring that there hasn’t been a mistake in loading the departure, and that your navdata is up to date and the leg still isn’t present, simply fly using heading. The two ways of doing this (with or without autopilot engaged) is to fly in LNAV mode until DOCKR and then switch to heading mode, or to use heading mode from the start. While the latter option does not legally fly the RNAV departure, it is fairly accurate for sim reasons, as real aircraft would not have this issue when loading the departure.

    You start up and taxi out to runway 25R. Tower tells you “N12345 RNAV DOCKR wind calm runway 25R cleared for takeoff.” Throttles go up, airspeed builds, and you takeoff. Per the departure “climb on heading 251 to 640 feet, then climb direct to cross DOCKR at or below 3000.” Up you go, passing through 640’ easily, and onto DOCKR.

    Contacting departure, the controller says “N12345 radar contact, altitude as reported, climb via ORCKA5 departure.” Now what? Simple, continue flying the departure. After DOCKR, begin the vectors leg, in this case on heading 236. The “climb via SID” part of the instruction simply means you can ignore the “except maintain 5000” from the initial clearance on the ground. To what altitude? FL230, shown on the bottom right of the Jeppesen chart and top middle of the FAA charts, complying with altitude restrictions. In short order, the controller will issue an instruction for you to rejoin the departure at KLIPR, either with another assigned heading or a vector directly to the fix.

    To briefly summarize, the ORCKA departure is frequently flown incorrectly, causing loss of separation issues at LAX. This can be attributed to some misinformation floating around online about deleting VECTORS legs in flight plans, and confusing charting on FAA departure plates. Ensure that the VECTORS leg is present in your FMC when loading the departure into the FMC. If it is not present, simply fly either manually or using the heading mode present in almost all autopilots manufactured in the last 70 years.

    I hope this has been informative, and I look forward to seeing you all in the virtual skies!