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Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
CES0729 KLAX ZSPD Enroute 0344
AAL73 KLAX YSSY Enroute 0321
AAL726 KLAX KSEA Enroute 1404
CFG081 KLAX EDDF Enroute 0855
AAL1832 KLAX KSFO Enroute 1023
DAL2319 KLAX KMSP Enroute 0323
FFT4130 KLAX KSLC Enroute 1637
DAL93 KLAX YBBN Enroute 1600
DAL2176 KLAX KDEN Enroute 1600
ASA585 KLAX KSEA Enroute 1218
FDX1055 KLAX KLAS Enroute 1600
UAL1224 KLAX KLAS Enroute 1600
DAL1798 KLAX CYYC Enroute 1600

Arrivals (30)

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BAW7D EGLL KLAX Enroute 0954
BOX478 EDDF KLAX Enroute 1621
DAL749 KJFK KLAX Enroute 0942
DAL747 KJFK KLAX Enroute 1007
UAL1945 KIAH KLAX Enroute 0730
DAL422 PHNL KLAX Enroute 0920
FDX43 VHHH KLAX Enroute 1514
AAL352 KCLT KLAX Enroute 1108
SWA1629 KRNO KLAX Enroute 1600
DAL324 KATL KLAX Enroute 0859
DAL702 MDPC KLAX Enroute 1906
KLM488 ROAH KLAX Enroute 1211
AAL818 KCLT KLAX Enroute 0953
CPA882 VHHH KLAX Enroute 1451
SWA334 KSAT KLAX Enroute 0931
UAL2164 KLAS KLAX Enroute 0831
UAL353 KEWR KLAX Enroute 1206
AAL778 KDFW KLAX Enroute 1012
UAL360 KBOS KLAX Enroute 0446
UAL855 KSLC KLAX Enroute 1106
BAW21B EGLL KLAX Enroute 1600
AIC2887 KSLC KLAX Enroute 1038
CES583 ZSPD KLAX Enroute 1600
CPA011 YSSY KLAX Enroute 0900
AAL984 KMIA KLAX Departing
UAL3906 KDEN KLAX Enroute 1018
AAL82 NZAA KLAX Enroute 0639
SKW5422 KASE KLAX Enroute 1140
AAY771 KCID KLAX Departing
SKW6281 KDEN KLAX Enroute 1600

Los Angeles (SoCal) 43

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Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
UAL2055 KSFO KONT Enroute 1022
FFT4371 KDEN KONT Enroute 1121
WAT1072 KSFO KONT Enroute 1017

Empire (SoCal) 3

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Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
FDX454 KSAN KDEN Enroute 1040
SKW3214 KSAN KSBP Enroute 1600
ASA1392 KSAN KPDX Enroute 1119
SWA3493 KSAN KPHX Enroute 1441
BAW9SW KSAN EGLL Enroute 1004
DAL150 KSAN KDEN Enroute 1024
N680CE KSAN KIND Enroute 0346
AAL4523 KSAN KPHX Enroute 1315
SWA4489 KSAN KMCO Enroute 1600
CSAHD KSAN KSBA Enroute 1600
SKW327 KSAN KPHX Enroute 1600

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Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
N961BS KAPC KSAN Enroute 1425
AAL1738 KLAS KSAN Enroute 1032
N180K KTIW KSAN Enroute 1433
AAL1950 KDFW KSAN Enroute 1014
MBK15N KEGE KSAN Enroute 1229

San Diego (SoCal) 16

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N13SY KLGB KMYL Enroute 1600
SKW4078 KSNA KLAS Enroute 0559

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PCX8 KHOU KLGB Enroute 1003

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WMK944 KBUR KFXE Enroute 1600

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P4RLA MWCR KVNY Enroute 1030

Burbank (SoCal) 3

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GGA1978 KATL KPSP Enroute 1029

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AIC1 KLAS VABB Enroute 1120
SWA768 KLAS KPDX Enroute 0123
UAL2251 KLAS KMCI Enroute 0123
UAL2164 KLAS KLAX Enroute 0831
AAL1738 KLAS KSAN Enroute 1032
EIN9MR KLAS EIDW Enroute 0228
JDI69 KVGT KBOI Enroute 1512
N407B KLAS KPHX Enroute 1600
DAL1543 KLAS KMSP Enroute 1600

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TCA7766 SBGR KLAS Enroute 0816
CFG2062 EDDF KLAS Enroute 1612
AFR703 LFPG KLAS Enroute 1615
PAY7260 KDFW KLAS Enroute 1004
AFR056 LFPG KLAS Enroute 1602
SKW4078 KSNA KLAS Enroute 0559
AAL1539 KMIA KLAS Enroute 1004
JBU455 KMSY KLAS Enroute 1033
AAL212 KSLC KLAS Enroute 1600
FDX1055 KLAX KLAS Enroute 1600
UAL350 KSFO KLAS Enroute 1600
UAL1224 KLAX KLAS Enroute 1600
MET9634 KROW KLAS Enroute 1600
AAL1851 KMIA KLAS Departing
AAL288 KDEN KLAS Enroute 1600
N210MA KVGT KVGT Enroute 1600

Las Vegas 25

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Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
SKW3214 KSAN KSBP Enroute 1600
AAL2627 KPHX KSBA Enroute 1600
CSAHD KSAN KSBA Enroute 1600

Santa Barbara 3

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BJT879 KVCV KSJC Enroute 0238

Edwards 1

Arrivals (1)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
SKW4989 KPHX KNYL Enroute 2002

Yuma 1
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    Left Turn ORCKA

    LAX is one of the busiest airports on VATSIM, both for controllers and pilots. Since it is such a heavily trafficked airport on VATSIM and in the real world, there are many departure and arrival procedures that are used to expedite the flow of traffic. Of these departures, the ORCKA departure, is both very commonly included in flight plans, and prone to some mistakes. By writing this, I hope to clear up some confusion caused by the unique departure procedure and the cluttered plate.

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    Let’s start by looking at the departure, shown here first using the FAA plate.

     

    Despite what the lines may appear to show, pilots must not proceed to KLIPR after crossing their runway’s respective RNAV fix.

    This is not the complete procedure, simply the first page. We can see on the bottom the plate that there is a second page for us to look at. Additionally, we should know that dotted lines on a procedure indicate what pilots should do during a Lost Communications scenario. The second page, which describes how to fly the departure in text, is much more enlightening than this first page. For the south complex (runways 25R and 25L) it says, “... cross DOCKR (25R) or HIPPR (25L) at or below 3000, then on heading 236 or as assigned by ATC,” and for the north complex (runways 24R and 24L) “...cross FABRA (24R) or DLREY (24L) at or below 3000, then on heading 251 or as assigned by ATC.”

    That last part seems to trip the most pilots up, “then on heading <> or as assigned by ATC.” This means that, if flying by hand, simply fly the heading on the departure until ATC gives you a turn direct to KLIPR, then resume the departure from there (on to KEGGS and so on). It seems far more often pilots let the FMC dictate where they go, which while not an issue generally can cause problems when programmed incorrectly. Specifically, with the deletion of “VECTORS” legs and the removal of discontinuities therein. In order for the FMC to properly fly the departure, it is imperative that the “VECTORS” leg be left intact. Such a leg will keep your airplane flying the correct heading until ATC gives you a turn.

    Let’s work through this with a scenario. I will be using the Zibo 737-800 mod for XPlane 11 as an example.

    You are N12345, flying from LAX to LAS. Clearance delivery has cleared you on the ORCKA5 departure, MISEN transition, climb via SID except maintain 5000. Loading the departure into the flight plan, you are greeted with this.

     

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    As we can see, there is the 640’ crossing, from which we navigate to DOCKR at or below 3000. After, the “VECTOR” leg mentioned earlier is shown. It is absolutely imperative that pilots do not delete this leg. As shown, the vector leg is on a heading of 236, as published on the departure. The same is true for the north runways, but on a heading of 251.

    But what if your FMC does not have this VECTORS leg present? If after ensuring that there hasn’t been a mistake in loading the departure, and that your navdata is up to date and the leg still isn’t present, simply fly using heading. The two ways of doing this (with or without autopilot engaged) is to fly in LNAV mode until DOCKR and then switch to heading mode, or to use heading mode from the start. While the latter option does not legally fly the RNAV departure, it is fairly accurate for sim reasons, as real aircraft would not have this issue when loading the departure.

    You start up and taxi out to runway 25R. Tower tells you “N12345 RNAV DOCKR wind calm runway 25R cleared for takeoff.” Throttles go up, airspeed builds, and you takeoff. Per the departure “climb on heading 251 to 640 feet, then climb direct to cross DOCKR at or below 3000.” Up you go, passing through 640’ easily, and onto DOCKR.

    Contacting departure, the controller says “N12345 radar contact, altitude as reported, climb via ORCKA5 departure.” Now what? Simple, continue flying the departure. After DOCKR, begin the vectors leg, in this case on heading 236. The “climb via SID” part of the instruction simply means you can ignore the “except maintain 5000” from the initial clearance on the ground. To what altitude? FL230, shown on the bottom right of the Jeppesen chart and top middle of the FAA charts, complying with altitude restrictions. In short order, the controller will issue an instruction for you to rejoin the departure at KLIPR, either with another assigned heading or a vector directly to the fix.

    To briefly summarize, the ORCKA departure is frequently flown incorrectly, causing loss of separation issues at LAX. This can be attributed to some misinformation floating around online about deleting VECTORS legs in flight plans, and confusing charting on FAA departure plates. Ensure that the VECTORS leg is present in your FMC when loading the departure into the FMC. If it is not present, simply fly either manually or using the heading mode present in almost all autopilots manufactured in the last 70 years.

    I hope this has been informative, and I look forward to seeing you all in the virtual skies!