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Departures (12)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
KAL018 KLAX RKSI Enroute 0649
AAL1595 KLAX KORD Enroute 0208
NBT413 KLAX LIRF Enroute 0818
SWA642 KLAX KDEN Enroute 1104
UAL823 KLAX KSFO Enroute 0258
TWA770 KLAX EGLL Enroute 2030
NKS311 KLAX KLAS Enroute 2245
SKW5591 KLAX KFAT Enroute 1600
SKW3522 KLAX KSMF Enroute 1358
FFT4145 KLAX KSFO Enroute 1600
UAL74Y KLAX LSZH Enroute 1600
SWR41G KLAX LSZH Enroute 1600

Arrivals (17)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
THYXT5 LTFM KLAX Enroute 0751
CCA983 ZBAA KLAX Enroute 1756
EIN6PE EIDW KLAX Enroute 1117
SWR40 LSZH KLAX Enroute 1105
DAL64 NZAA KLAX Enroute 0747
FDX454 KMIA KLAX Enroute 1752
DAL2660 KRDU KLAX Enroute 1133
QFA12 YSSY KLAX Enroute 0857
BAW51 KATL KLAX Enroute 1119
N702DR KRAL KSMO Enroute 2320
AFL106 UUEE KLAX Enroute 1153
ETD205 MMMX KLAX Enroute 0847
DAL781 KSLC KLAX Enroute 2129
N972PA KOKB KSMO Enroute 2315
QFA339 YBBN KLAX Departing
UAL120 KSFO KLAX Enroute 1600
N1979 KIZA KHHR Enroute 1251

Los Angeles (SoCal) 29

Departures (2)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
N702DR KRAL KSMO Enroute 2320
N126YK F70 KSNA Enroute 0304

Arrivals (1)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
GTI3706 KPDX KRIV Enroute 1309

Empire (SoCal) 3

Departures (6)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
DAL2242 KSAN KLAS Enroute 0345
AAL1983 KSAN KSFO Enroute 1520
N972PA KOKB KSMO Enroute 2315
DAL585 KSAN KSLC Enroute 1600
AAL1755 KSAN KDFW Enroute 1600
SWA420 KSAN KLAS Enroute 1600

Arrivals (5)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
SWA1924 KLAS KSAN Enroute 0045
JBU2145 KSLC KSAN Enroute 1315
SPJ145 KLAS KSAN Enroute 1215
SWA1794 KSFO KSAN Enroute 1600
SWA712 KPHX KSAN Enroute 1600

San Diego (SoCal) 11

Departures (2)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
SWA2249 KLGB KRNO Enroute 1600
FFT4958 KSNA KPHX Enroute 1600

Arrivals (3)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
N79840 PAFA KSNA Enroute 1111
ASA1104 KSEA KSNA Enroute 1202
N126YK F70 KSNA Enroute 0304

Coast (SoCal) 5

Departures (1)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
SWA1486 KBUR KDEN Enroute 1112

Burbank (SoCal) 1

Departures (1)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
FFT4864 KPSP KDEN Enroute 1600

Palm Springs (SoCal) 1

Departures (7)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
SWA1924 KLAS KSAN Enroute 0045
UAL2047 KLAS KSFO Enroute 1342
SWA2404 KLAS KOAK Enroute 1051
UAL1369 KLAS KSFO Enroute 1033
SWA2819 KLAS KPDX Enroute 1305
NKS2329 KLAS KOAK Enroute 2300
SPJ145 KLAS KSAN Enroute 1215

Arrivals (7)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
BAW2MP EGLL KLAS Enroute 1341
DAL2242 KSAN KLAS Enroute 0345
SWA169 KABQ KLAS Enroute 1326
SWA3371 KOAK KLAS Enroute 1216
NKS311 KLAX KLAS Enroute 2245
NKS2515 KSLC KLAS Enroute 1411
SWA420 KSAN KLAS Enroute 1600

Las Vegas 14

Departures (1)

Callsign Dep Arr Status ETA
N1979 KIZA KHHR Enroute 1251

Other 1
  • Flights To/From ZLA: 65
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  • Controller Schedule

    June 23rd, 2025

    Los Angeles Tower
    Dennis Glauner

    Session with RK

    1630 - 1800 PDT / 2330 - 0100 Zulu

    Socal Approach (Combined)
    Aaryan Khan

    Session with TY

    1800 - 1930 PDT / 0100 - 0230 Zulu

    Las Vegas Tower
    Jerome Sudhakar

    1900 - 2230 PDT / 0200 - 0530 Zulu

    Left Turn ORCKA

    LAX is one of the busiest airports on VATSIM, both for controllers and pilots. Since it is such a heavily trafficked airport on VATSIM and in the real world, there are many departure and arrival procedures that are used to expedite the flow of traffic. Of these departures, the ORCKA departure, is both very commonly included in flight plans, and prone to some mistakes. By writing this, I hope to clear up some confusion caused by the unique departure procedure and the cluttered plate.

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    Let’s start by looking at the departure, shown here first using the FAA plate.

     

    Despite what the lines may appear to show, pilots must not proceed to KLIPR after crossing their runway’s respective RNAV fix.

    This is not the complete procedure, simply the first page. We can see on the bottom the plate that there is a second page for us to look at. Additionally, we should know that dotted lines on a procedure indicate what pilots should do during a Lost Communications scenario. The second page, which describes how to fly the departure in text, is much more enlightening than this first page. For the south complex (runways 25R and 25L) it says, “... cross DOCKR (25R) or HIPPR (25L) at or below 3000, then on heading 236 or as assigned by ATC,” and for the north complex (runways 24R and 24L) “...cross FABRA (24R) or DLREY (24L) at or below 3000, then on heading 251 or as assigned by ATC.”

    That last part seems to trip the most pilots up, “then on heading <> or as assigned by ATC.” This means that, if flying by hand, simply fly the heading on the departure until ATC gives you a turn direct to KLIPR, then resume the departure from there (on to KEGGS and so on). It seems far more often pilots let the FMC dictate where they go, which while not an issue generally can cause problems when programmed incorrectly. Specifically, with the deletion of “VECTORS” legs and the removal of discontinuities therein. In order for the FMC to properly fly the departure, it is imperative that the “VECTORS” leg be left intact. Such a leg will keep your airplane flying the correct heading until ATC gives you a turn.

    Let’s work through this with a scenario. I will be using the Zibo 737-800 mod for XPlane 11 as an example.

    You are N12345, flying from LAX to LAS. Clearance delivery has cleared you on the ORCKA5 departure, MISEN transition, climb via SID except maintain 5000. Loading the departure into the flight plan, you are greeted with this.

     

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    As we can see, there is the 640’ crossing, from which we navigate to DOCKR at or below 3000. After, the “VECTOR” leg mentioned earlier is shown. It is absolutely imperative that pilots do not delete this leg. As shown, the vector leg is on a heading of 236, as published on the departure. The same is true for the north runways, but on a heading of 251.

    But what if your FMC does not have this VECTORS leg present? If after ensuring that there hasn’t been a mistake in loading the departure, and that your navdata is up to date and the leg still isn’t present, simply fly using heading. The two ways of doing this (with or without autopilot engaged) is to fly in LNAV mode until DOCKR and then switch to heading mode, or to use heading mode from the start. While the latter option does not legally fly the RNAV departure, it is fairly accurate for sim reasons, as real aircraft would not have this issue when loading the departure.

    You start up and taxi out to runway 25R. Tower tells you “N12345 RNAV DOCKR wind calm runway 25R cleared for takeoff.” Throttles go up, airspeed builds, and you takeoff. Per the departure “climb on heading 251 to 640 feet, then climb direct to cross DOCKR at or below 3000.” Up you go, passing through 640’ easily, and onto DOCKR.

    Contacting departure, the controller says “N12345 radar contact, altitude as reported, climb via ORCKA5 departure.” Now what? Simple, continue flying the departure. After DOCKR, begin the vectors leg, in this case on heading 236. The “climb via SID” part of the instruction simply means you can ignore the “except maintain 5000” from the initial clearance on the ground. To what altitude? FL230, shown on the bottom right of the Jeppesen chart and top middle of the FAA charts, complying with altitude restrictions. In short order, the controller will issue an instruction for you to rejoin the departure at KLIPR, either with another assigned heading or a vector directly to the fix.

    To briefly summarize, the ORCKA departure is frequently flown incorrectly, causing loss of separation issues at LAX. This can be attributed to some misinformation floating around online about deleting VECTORS legs in flight plans, and confusing charting on FAA departure plates. Ensure that the VECTORS leg is present in your FMC when loading the departure into the FMC. If it is not present, simply fly either manually or using the heading mode present in almost all autopilots manufactured in the last 70 years.

    I hope this has been informative, and I look forward to seeing you all in the virtual skies!